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Another Original

Posted by
john4jack (Corvallis, Oregon, United States) on 24 February 2009 in Plant & Nature and Portfolio.

This is the Shooting Star photograph without the Vintage Pastel processing. Some of the strong opinions about that kind of processing prompt me to give another personal perspective statement. The following is the response to a comment left by Denise. "The Latin root for amateur means "lover." I do photography, Denise, because I passionately love it. A dimension of that love is creativity. Clearly people can be creative in a wide spectrum of ways. For some, their creativity comes when the camera is at work (I almost said, "in their hands," but many such as myself find the tripod indispensable, especially for macro work). For others, their creativity comes in the digital darkroom, which at its latest is still in its toddler stage. There is no value judgment to be made about where ones creativity is exercised. Personally, although in the past few years, I have learned a great deal about the ins and outs of the digital darkroom, it is not where I find my deepest fulfillment and joy. The cutting edge of my personal photographic journey is in the area of what I would call my photographic vision; and by vision, I mean what is seen by the heart and the soul as much as what is seen by the eye. For many, the camera is primarily a tool. I find it a tool, yes, but it is much more than that. I feel a personal and mystical connection with my camera. The poet Gerard Manley Hopkins said, "The world is charged with the grandeur of God." For me, the camera is as holy a vessel as any chalice or paten, and it takes me into the realm of the holy. The cutting edge of my creativity from start to finish has been with my artistic vision, and that occurs to the degree that it does when I am working with the camera. The digital darkroom is just hard work for me.
Others such as Ansel Adams come alive in the darkroom, wet or digital. I celebrate the creativity of others wherever it occurs."


The SOUL of a photographer is in SEEING the beauty ....
The GOAL of a photographer is to use their craft to capture it.
You CANT have one without the other.
Roman Johnston

NIKON D300 1/320 second F/7.1 ISO 200 225 mm (35mm equiv.)

bluechameleon from Vancouver, Canada

The colours being so vibrant makes it seem 3-D! Very cool!

24 Feb 2009 5:04am

rem_la from Villiers, France

attention, ca va sortir de l'écran !

24 Feb 2009 5:09am

Hema Iyer from Bangalore, India

Such rich color. Its really beautiful. I like both the images...processed and original.

24 Feb 2009 5:23am

@Hema Iyer: Thank you, Hema.

Steve Rice from Olympia, United States

I like this version too.

24 Feb 2009 5:26am

Didier from somewhere, France

Beautiful photograph

24 Feb 2009 5:48am

Jean-François from Les Issambres, France

quelles couleurs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 Feb 2009 5:48am

Linerberry from Sumner, Christchurch, New Zealand

Exquisite!!!

24 Feb 2009 5:54am

jamesy from christchurch, New Zealand

Another beauty I love the quote by Roman Johnstone

24 Feb 2009 6:10am

Monique from Koh Samui, Thailand

I like this one better because the colors are not too saturated compared to the other one. I like the vignetting to focus even more on the beautiful flowers.

24 Feb 2009 6:17am

ordinaryimages from Kentucky Bluegrass, United States

I thought you were a lover, now I find out you're a photographer : ] best...jerry

24 Feb 2009 6:31am

@ordinaryimages: Or, as you would say Jerry, a lover who likes to take pictures.

Craig from Vacaville, California, United States

I like the repetition!

24 Feb 2009 7:46am

mo.langel from Courtelary, Switzerland

wow!!! Magnifique! Très belle couleurs!

24 Feb 2009 8:31am

Anthony Thomason from Phoenix, United States

Wonderful color capture!
-Peace

24 Feb 2009 9:05am

Anna.C from LA ROCHELLE, France

personally, I always prefer natural pictures, so I prefer this one not over-processed. beautiful color's spring !

24 Feb 2009 9:58am

@Anna.C: I figured that this would be your preference, Anna.

kerfendal from Paris, France

what a serie !!!!

24 Feb 2009 10:02am

Alivia from Saint-Etienne, France

couleurs brillantes de vie, quelle lumière.

24 Feb 2009 10:39am

EYES WIDE SHUT from The library of my soul, United Kingdom

I love what you've written, Jack, so personal and honest. And I like your interpretation of the diverse forms of creativity in photography. Superbly written.

And the beautiful photograph speaks for itself. A fabulous post my friend

24 Feb 2009 10:42am

@EYES WIDE SHUT: Thank you, Paul.

Sarito from Basingstoke, United Kingdom

brilliant colour and processing.. I like it!

24 Feb 2009 10:45am

Marie LC from Voiron, France

Flashy !!!

24 Feb 2009 11:15am

Yvon from Orleans, France

wow, wonderful photo, nice shot

24 Feb 2009 12:00pm

Ninni from Brazil

Nice! I think this is my favorite...perhaps;)

24 Feb 2009 12:10pm

dogilicious from Millerstown, PA, United States

I believe you and I had the same convesration a couple of weeks ago. When I first looked at it I thought you had reposted. I was concentrating on the details more than the processing.

24 Feb 2009 12:45pm

Lee from Fort Frances Ontario, Canada

Perfectly penned. Great words. Great composition also.

24 Feb 2009 1:03pm

Elena Kotrotsou from Drossia, Greece

It's amazing the way this beautiful flower reveals

24 Feb 2009 1:43pm

@Elena Kotrotsou: While backpacking in the 60s, the first Shooting Stars that I ever saw were along a river bank high above timberline in the Sierra Nevada. They took my breath away, and still do. They may be my favorite of the wild flowers. Having said that, all wild flowers bring healing and joy.

-1q5yChØt!c- from Persia, Iran

very beautiful and impressive flowers !!! also lovely colors ;)

24 Feb 2009 1:59pm

Ajay from Pune, India

I tell you, Jack, that small note is really an inspiration to amateurs like me. I believe everyone has a way to look at things and here at aminus3 I have found everyone has a very unique way of looking and capturing things. And it's so beautiful, so different and yet so admirable in it's own way. And for everyone, you've put it so straight. Everything left aside, processing, framing, tones etc. etc. what really matters what one's heart and soul sees.

24 Feb 2009 2:17pm

@Ajay: Thank you, Ajay. It is only with a wonderful community like aminus3 that one feels free to express such personal thoughts. In the photography workshops that I have attended, people have not shared their "inner" life. Chris Orwig, a wonderful teacher of photography at the Brooks Institute in Santa Barbara, CA, shared a quote by Rodney Smith, "Still of hand cannot make up for emptiness of heart."

JJ from Jersey City, United States

Wonderful shot, gorgeous colors, but reading your words was refreshing, Like Ajay I am new to photography and you highlighting that creativity come sin many forms and different people see things differently which makes the world a wonderful place

24 Feb 2009 2:56pm

Eleftheria from Athens, Greece

Beautiful!

24 Feb 2009 3:01pm

Observing from West Cheshire, United Kingdom

I prefer this version John, it has a wonderful depth and the colors look cleaner.

24 Feb 2009 3:31pm

Anthony Lambert from Bielefeld, Germany

After everything you´ve written dare I say it´s a bit too processed for my taste.The colours are a bit over the top for my liking(but then,horses for courses !!)

24 Feb 2009 5:36pm

@Anthony Lambert: Actually, Anthony, with the exception of the vignetting, there is almost no processing of this photograph.

Diane Schuller from Hythe, Canada

I like both versions and don't have any strong opinions for either one. I really like what you wrote in this post today. I think it's important for us as viewers to realize that we can certainly offer constructive criticism but we must not impose our personal preferences on another person's art. For instance, I really tend to dislike extreme HDR and overuse of LensBaby but that's not to say when I see one of those images that I can't see the 'bones' and comment on that. Back to your image ... I've taken another look at both and perhaps I do have a bit of a preference for today's version but I still personally find interest in both of them. Nicely done Jack (in words and art).

24 Feb 2009 5:39pm

@Diane Schuller: Thanks, Diane. Regarding both HDR and LensBaby, I find that if it is done very well, I like the results. For example, when HDR is done at its best, you can't tell that it is HDR. I am just learning HDR. My reason for using it would not be to create an effect but to deal with an exposure range that is beyond the capabilities of my camera. In the same way, people who are really expert with the LensBaby create some fantastic photographs. Thus far, I have posted only one LensBaby shot. Until I get much better with the lens, I plan to spare others.

mmolinah from Spain

I'm in completaly agree with Diane Schuller. All style, system, process, etcetera are good if the final result have somethig of art or creativity and the viewers ar the judge. I particulary think that is good what i like!!. Well done and well said Jack !!!!!!

24 Feb 2009 7:15pm

Nicholas from Shah Alam, Malaysia

Excellent post to match an excellent shot. Love the vibrant colours here. The good thing about photogragphy is that there is never right or wrong. The same picture can mean so many things to different people. I've learned to accept creativity - in whatever forms they carry.

24 Feb 2009 8:48pm

alex centrella from California, United States

beautiful colors..

24 Feb 2009 9:10pm

Evelyne Dubos from Le Mans, France

Nice vibrant colours; I also prefer this version.

24 Feb 2009 9:54pm

Tammy/Cricket from Huntsville, United States

Love...love...love the color. This is so wonderful.

25 Feb 2009 1:54am

Denise from Perry, United States

I had not the chance to respond to your thoughtful words you responded with on the 19th. You are correct to say that photography expresses a piece of our individuality. Though aminus3 we are able to share this piece and learn from other's. I believe my photography style has been altered in some way during my past 8 months as I learn from others who are willing to critique and encourage. Deep within though, my feel for the picture has not changed and i continue to express myself through what I think is interesting and beautiful, while others may find it just "OK". I compare this to musicians: classiscal/ folk/ jazz etc. all consider themselves noteworthy, they just pluck their stings differently. Thanks for all your words of encouragement, keeps me going. Denise

25 Feb 2009 2:27am

@Denise: To continue this conversation, Denise, something I notice is the wide range of subject matter which people choose to photograph. Obviously it is the natural world that speaks most personally to me. However, I truly appreciate outstanding photographs no matter what the subject matter. I also have been opened up to a diversity of styles. Part of what all of this breadth and diversity does for me is clarify my own vision. It causes me to think more seriously about my work and the ways in which I would like to grow. As I have said, I am profoundly indebted to others in the aminus3 community.

Sandrine from Cincinnati, United States

Love the colors!

25 Feb 2009 2:58am

amy from Nanaimo, BC, Canada

Bravo! You have spoken from my heart in a far more articulate manner than I have been able.

25 Feb 2009 4:24am

Toni from Eastern Washington, United States

Excellent words, Jack. I think the reason why art appeals to me is because art is personal to the artist, but it is also personal to the viewer. The artist has a message they want to convey, and they use different tools and methods at their disposal - be it a camera and lens or digital darkroom, and whether they are successful in conveying their message or not is up to each individual viewer. Many times the viewer will see something completely different, based on their personal history, than what the artist intended.

25 Feb 2009 4:44am

@Toni: Absolutely, Toni!

Anita from West Nottingham, United States

I saw this version first, and find that I prefer it. I love the brilliant pinks, and use them in some of my images. I'm discovering, somewhat to my dismay, that they are difficult to print.

Sometimes when I look through the viewfinder, my eyes fill with tears at the beauty I see.

25 Feb 2009 12:54pm

@Anita: Oh Anita, your tears make us soul mates! If you had written this before coming to Eugene, I would have driven down just to meet you.